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Server Stuff => Feature/Plugin Requests => Topic started by: Chris9495 on May 11, 2014, 08:15:57 AM

Title: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Chris9495 on May 11, 2014, 08:15:57 AM
A simple idea that there could be a second shop that sells/buys things such as ingots buy the stack, instead on one at a time.
Many people use the shop to sell large portions of their excess gold and iron as well as other valuables, and the current shop signs can cause players quite a bit of spam
with their one-at-a-time sales.
   to paraphrase DaVoBMX, " '$12 has been added to your account.' is being imprinted on my eyes'
This would just be a second shop in addition to the current one, it would have the same items for sale, and would have the same ratios.
  It would just be on a larger scale.
This 'Elite' shop would be a great way to save players time and reduce the spam that can be caused.
                               
                     -Thanks to Fathertimekeeper and DaVoBMX1725 for the idea!
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: FatherTimeKeeper on May 11, 2014, 08:35:41 AM
Hmm.. this i think has been asked for before. like then i think it would be nice to have, but i think access to it should somehow also be sm plus to give ppl another reason to behave and make SM on the server.

Just my 2 cents thanks :D
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: DaVoBMX1725 on May 11, 2014, 08:41:06 AM
Yes this would save so much time rather then standing there holding/spamming right click, This time can be used so much productively This has my vote for making it.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Meteora on May 11, 2014, 10:10:02 AM
I'd love it!
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Varun aka eoyvideoteam on May 11, 2014, 11:48:31 AM
Do you have a link for the plugin Chris? :)
I think this would be a great idea, you can be in and out of the shop in no time, and, it doesn't spam your chat!
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Migas on May 11, 2014, 12:18:04 PM
It's a great idea but that is already a donator perk.

If a donator do /sell <item> they can sell all iron ingots, gold ingots, the item you want to sell at the same time... so creating this new shop would ruin one of the perks for donators, sorry.

Tell me if I'm missunderstanding or not.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Varun aka eoyvideoteam on May 11, 2014, 03:11:29 PM
Migas I think its a bit different than that, but correct me if I'm wrong. Donators can go and do /sell from anywhere in the world and sell items, but using this plugin, normal members still have to warp to the shop and sell. This plugin just makes it so that you can sell in bulk and more efficiently.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Meteora on May 11, 2014, 03:14:23 PM
Also /sell sells everything. While the "elite shop" would only have the items from the admin shop in bulk.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Migas on May 11, 2014, 03:18:02 PM
Yeah from what I see, everything you are saying can be made by donators. So I don't think we should take out donator's perks for it, sorry.

Thanks for the suggestion though  ;)
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Chris9495 on May 11, 2014, 05:48:35 PM
This would be a feature, not an additional plugin.  We already have what would be necessary to make it.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Migas on May 11, 2014, 05:53:17 PM
Chris, from what I understand, your general idea is based on this:

A simple idea that there could be a second shop that sells/buys things such as ingots buy the stack, instead on one at a time.

The problem is that there is a donation perk that allows to sell every item in shop all at once. If we would create this new shop, that would ruin the /sell <item> perk for the donators, so I think, If you want this perk, donate until you get that command. Sorry.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: FatherTimeKeeper on May 12, 2014, 12:32:19 AM
how about a middle ground, somewhere we can sell "prescious" Metals 8 at a time instead of one at a time?

We still gotta grind and work, and grind and work to get the stuff, we just wanna sell it faster.

wait...  Has anyone tried shift clicking a sell sign?
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: DaVoBMX1725 on May 12, 2014, 01:59:53 AM
Does it work?
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: ace123445 on May 12, 2014, 05:57:44 PM
i agree with migas and chris, i like the idea of having that because im 14 and dont have time on my hands to just keep clicking and when im talking to someone i have to just look at the chat, but i also agree with migas if we do this then when i get the sell command well it will be useless and i know the server would be happy for you to donate and get the command so the owners dont have to pay and we can keep this going and have fun but i did like the idea and doing this but i agree with migas more. I also like the idea of it just being sm+ so we can see if it works and so members dont think about getting banned.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: MacLeezy on May 12, 2014, 07:15:59 PM
does the /sell feature only work for items in the /shop or Every in game item?
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Migas on May 12, 2014, 07:22:16 PM
does the /sell feature only work for items in the /shop or Every in game item?

Yeah, it only works for items in /shop.

I forgot to say. This feature is available at 75$ donator rank.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: MacLeezy on May 12, 2014, 07:25:13 PM
Than yeah that would almost completely make that perk obsolete... sure you can /sell from anywhere but how hard is it to /shop or /Eliteshop and walk to the sign?
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Shiiftyy on May 12, 2014, 07:30:42 PM
Here's an idea. You have to pay tokens to get into the EliteShop
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: MacLeezy on May 12, 2014, 07:34:49 PM
that Might make the Tokenshop unused, ppl would spend most of the tokens traveling to the eliteshop
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Shiiftyy on May 12, 2014, 07:53:18 PM
that Might make the Tokenshop unused, ppl would spend most of the tokens traveling to the eliteshop

Yeah that is true.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Creepy_Crawlers on May 12, 2014, 09:03:50 PM
Migas, Why is the /sell command on the $75 and not lower and another question, I think you said this at one point but forgot, can't you sell like 1 stone and its $8 for 32 so it will do $8 divided by 32 and thats the amount of money you will get?
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Migas on May 12, 2014, 09:15:26 PM
We decided to place /sell at 75$ because we found it fair to be in that rank.

And yes. You can sell even 1 stone instead of 32, but you would only receive 0,25$
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Varun aka eoyvideoteam on May 12, 2014, 09:48:32 PM
that Might make the Tokenshop unused, ppl would spend most of the tokens traveling to the eliteshop

Yeah that is true.
We could make it so that you combine both shops, and to get access to each of the shops you must have like 200 tokens. Then afterwards you would access to both shops, the eliteshop and tokenshop, because it shows that you have cared to stay on the server for quite some time to earn your way to the shop and are a valued member.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Shiiftyy on May 12, 2014, 10:26:12 PM
that Might make the Tokenshop unused, ppl would spend most of the tokens traveling to the eliteshop

Yeah that is true.
We could make it so that you combine both shops, and to get access to each of the shops you must have like 200 tokens. Then afterwards you would access to both shops, the eliteshop and tokenshop, because it shows that you have cared to stay on the server for quite some time to earn your way to the shop and are a valued member.

I think that is a great idea.

Maybe we could also add a shop thats costs like 1500 tokens to get into and you go in for about 60 seconds or so but you can sell things for a slightly increased price. Idk, just a thought
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: DaVoBMX1725 on May 12, 2014, 11:22:21 PM
Hmm This all sounds good but I like alness said you might want to increase the selling price for that particular shop, I think this would be helpful because it adds an extra benefit then just Selling large quantity's.
Would you get permanent access after you have paid the original tokens?
How would you police tps into the shop?
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Shiiftyy on May 13, 2014, 12:29:15 AM
Hmm This all sounds good but I like alness said you might want to increase the selling price for that particular shop, I think this would be helpful because it adds an extra benefit then just Selling large quantity's.
Would you get permanent access after you have paid the original tokens?
How would you police tps into the shop?

No. It would be a one time thing where you would have to pay each time you want to get in.

And it could be like how it is in minigames. Basically a tp blocking thing
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: DaVoBMX1725 on May 13, 2014, 12:37:16 AM
Ok thanks alness. I just had an Idea what if we did it like you pay say like 1000 tokens and first then 100 every other time you want to access the elite shop?
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Shiiftyy on May 13, 2014, 01:15:26 AM
Ok thanks alness. I just had an Idea what if we did it like you pay say like 1000 tokens and first then 100 every other time you want to access the elite shop?

Yeah thats a good idea too. Like I said it was just an idea so it can always be improved upon
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: MacLeezy on May 13, 2014, 03:12:00 AM
I think the Solution to this is.... Sign Shops, I think making Easier and More access to items will kill the desire to Sell to other players.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: DaVoBMX1725 on May 13, 2014, 06:10:05 AM
MacLeezy lots of players have sign shops I do myself but not everyone buys stuff with them. would you really say but $20k in a sign so you buy iron? because Time himself sold about 50-80k of iron to the shop, All we are suggesting as I understand it is a Shop that is solely is the same as The admin shop just with larger quantity's that you can sell at a time though this would be wrecking 1 of the perks of $75 donation so there might not be an alternate option then to sticking with spamming right click
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: MacLeezy on May 13, 2014, 06:16:49 AM
I know thats what I'm saying.. 'Other Than' Spamming Shop.. I think the Admins would rather us Sell to each other than Building another Shop just to sell larger quantities. Though I agree the Messages are kinda irritating if your trying to keep up with the Chat.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: DaVoBMX1725 on May 13, 2014, 06:38:15 AM
Yeah selling to each other is a lot better for the economy but when you really want/need money you always end up going to the shop and selling hordes of iron/gold and not many people tend to buy items from shops bazzar get a lot of sales or as I hear but no one buys heaps of iron unless there making beacons.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: MacLeezy on May 13, 2014, 06:50:17 AM
Well Maybe Ppl Should Set up Shops For Buying large Quantities at a price 'Slightly' Lower than Shop, that Way instead of paying for access to an elite shop your giving someone who would buy large quantities a Small % for each sale than they can go sell it an deal with the chat messages themselves.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: DaVoBMX1725 on May 13, 2014, 07:19:44 AM
Whos going to sell stuff for lower then a price you can always get?
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Ellemenopeanuts on May 13, 2014, 07:50:41 AM
For the convenience of selling in bulk, say 32 ingots at a time, a few people would be willing to sacrifice around $1 per ingot.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: MacLeezy on May 13, 2014, 08:13:53 AM
Whos going to sell stuff for lower then a price you can always get?

For the Same reason you'd be willing to spend a 'Subscription Fee' to an elite shop... For Convenience.. Instead of Paying Money to go to an elite shop, take a small price cut to your bulk sale.. thats generally how it works in the real world... So say You want to Sell Stacks of Iron Blocks

If /shop buys your Iron ingots for $12 and you wanna sit there and Sell 9 stacks of ingots (1 Stack of Iron Blocks) you can Make $6912
So if I Set up a Sign Shop that Buys 64 Iron Blocks at a time for $6480 ($11.25/ingot) than You payed only $432 for an Instant sale of 6.5k

if you were looking to get Rid of 36 Stacks of Iron blocks (20,736 Ingots/ Messages) at Shop you could make $248,832
Or you could Click Max 36 times and still make $233,280 giving me a Profit of $15,552 and Saving you the time and your eyes.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: DaVoBMX1725 on May 13, 2014, 11:43:16 AM
Hmm This all sounds good but were do we go from here?
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Fedgar_Lurch on May 16, 2014, 03:17:49 PM
I will be looking into this.
Title: Re: A Shop For The Elite
Post by: Chris9495 on May 16, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
If this idea is denied, perhaps a way to toggle the messages you get when purchasing and selling items from the shop?