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Everything Else / Re: EULA and Sentinel Craft
« on: June 25, 2014, 02:12:50 AM »
Yeah I am rather new and couldn't find those things immediately thank you for the clarification. I was more so concerned with the longevity of the server because I do enjoy my time on it. All it takes is one prick with an email to mojangs lawyer to bring things to a screech halt. Trying to protect my time investment I suppose  ;)

Cheers guys excellent discussion

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Everything Else / Re: EULA and Sentinel Craft
« on: June 25, 2014, 12:14:04 AM »
Quote from: Migas on June 24, 2014, 12:07:47 AM
Kits --> Regular players have access to items offered in those. So there's no violation in that.

Fly --> Regular players can achieve this command if they are active enough and are promoted to Senior Member.

We are not profiting anything with it and every donation go to the server itself. Also, we are not selling anything because stuff like fly, kits, mob disguises and in-game currency are perks from it. The main objective of donations is to support the server and as a "Thank you" from us, they receive certain perks. Players are not paying us something, they are simply donating. Therefore, our server is not affected to EULA because the donations go 100% to the server and players are not buying, they are donating (different words on the dictionary).

I think you missed my point, whether you call it a donation, gift, paying for it, buying or an act of god you are not allowed to trade hard currency for things that are not cosmetic. Yes people have access to the items in the kits themselves but they do not have access to the command for the kit which is a gameplay changing mechanic no matter how you look at it therefore forbidden. And the fly thing I think might be okay because you can get the gameplay changing mechanic through strictly in game means(the actual command /fly itself) so unless there is a way to get the /kit commands through in game means I don't think that would be okay with the clarification on the EULA.

"You are allowed to accept donations
You are allowed to accept donations from players. You can thank them publicly or in-game, but can?t give preferential treatment for donating. You are not allowed to restrict gameplay features in an attempt to make money."
Donations can't be traded for anything other then a thank you or a purely cosmetic item plain and simple.

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Everything Else / Re: EULA and Sentinel Craft
« on: June 23, 2014, 11:32:14 PM »
From my understanding of the follow-up Q and A's there are a couple things that are donator perks that are disallowed by the new EULA.

"You are allowed to sell in-game items so long as they don?t affect gameplay
We don?t mind you selling items in game, but they must be purely cosmetic. Pets, hats, and particle effects are OK, but swords, invincibility potions, and man-eating pigs are not. We want all players to be presented with the same gameplay features, whether they decide to pay or not."
This includes kits and fly command.

"Can I charge for access to server commands?
Yes, as long as their effects are purely cosmetic. Commands that affect gameplay, such as a command to fly, cannot be sold for hard currency."
Just to clarify above comment

"Can I sell ?kits? for hard currency if I provide a balanced alternative for non-paying users?
If the ?kits? contain gameplay-affecting features they are not allowed. Gameplay balance is not relevant to the EULA. If the items included in the kit are purely cosmetic, you can charge real money/hard currency."
Further Clarification

"You cannot charge real-world cash for in-game currency
We don?t mind in-game currencies which are earned through playing, but you are not allowed to sell them for real-world cash. Remember ? if the stuff you sell affects gameplay, we?re not cool with it."
Can't sell soft currency for hard currency

Now with that said there Rich brought up the point that they are donations not selling but here
"You are allowed to accept donations
You are allowed to accept donations from players. You can thank them publicly or in-game, but can?t give preferential treatment for donating. You are not allowed to restrict gameplay features in an attempt to make money."
That means the donations are not donations, they are charging for certain perks except for Name color change and joining the full server. With that said I understand the server costs money and it goes towards running it but I think its a bit naive to ignore the changes and continue with the current revenue.
If anyone has any counter points I am very interested in reading them as there are plenty of grey areas here. I'd love to hear more.

Sirwilliam732

Sources:
Original FAQ for donations https://mojang.com/2014/06/lets-talk-server-monetisation/
Follow up Q&A https://mojang.com/2014/06/lets-talk-server-monetisation-the-follow-up-qa/

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