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Server Stuff => Server Announcements => Topic started by: Fedgar_Lurch on February 01, 2015, 09:38:43 PM
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As many of you know, Elle has decided to leave the server. This probably comes as some level of surprise, because of her long tenure here. I know it came as quite a shock to myself and the other senior staff. She has informed many of us that she will not be coming back at any point.
Lets go over the events leading up to her quitting:
January 20th
Rich was tracking down an ax that was... Impossible It had enchantments that you cannot get on it through fair game-play. After a few hours of checking Rich followed the trail back to a few of Elle's Chests. Upon further investigation it was found that this was not an isolated instance. We found that multiple things had been duplicated. Below is a link to a sample of one such instance.
http://pastebin.com/Bt4ymqN5
After finding these occurrences, we continued to investigate how extensive the abuse was. We found 2 more notable instances.
The logs and screen shots show how she copied Signs that Rich had used to store his XP, Broke them to retrieve the stored XP and then created signs of her own. Which were then repeatedly copied, broke, and then re-pasted in.
When there is an entry for a placed sign, it has should have the content of the text written like this example:
[[Trade]] [$200:0] [825 exp:643500] [Ellemenopea]]
When it just says "created wall sign" without having the text of the creation, that means it was pasted in using W/e. You can see what I mean in the screenshot below. (remember, read logs from the bottom to top, since it is backwards in time.)
http://s2.postimg.org/i2i7n1b7d/ell_1.png
http://pastebin.com/NF53hMJn
Below are screenshots of when she pasted in her Skyblock farms. (The clue here in the screenshot is that all the blocks were created the same second. Obviously you cant place blocks at the exact same time, so we looked at the logs and it showed she pasted the entire construct in.)
http://s25.postimg.org/9eb4xwjcv/2015_01_20_18_09_47.png
http://s25.postimg.org/zb4tain0f/2015_01_20_18_09_59.png
--Complete Skyblock View Below--
http://postimg.org/image/vze8h6nar/
These screenshots represent one more occasion where she abused W/e. She placed these items in her chest in the Overworld, copied them, and then pasted them into her Skyblock world. Check the time-stamps and the Placed/Removed chest contents.
(The unspecified action is because Logblock doesn't understand what the commands W/e use are doing. It recognizes that items have been created, but not how)
http://s25.postimg.org/ebopj0lbz/2015_01_20_18_09_02.png
http://s25.postimg.org/l0v8z16nz/2015_01_20_18_08_48.png
January 24th
After Discovering all of this evidence I had all of the senior staff reconfirm what we had found (Just to make sure we did not make any mistakes) All four of us agreed that there was sufficient information to confront her. So we waited until we could all be online and tried to ask her if she could explain all of this. At no point were any of us trying to gang up on her. We all went into this meeting with the hope that we had missed something or that there was some explanation for all of these incidents.
Elle quickly said that she could not explain them, and requested to step down. After talking with her for a few hours we were left with making a decision. She said that she had not done these things. It boiled down to something very simple. Elle is our friend, and we have played together for almost 2 years, we trust her, and so we decided not to have her step down. We told her that it would be okay, we would not hold it against her. Everything (I thought) was put behind us.
January 26th
I was notified that Grizdale builds had started to disappear. Along with Embassies from Lomari. Now obviously this is alarming behavior in any situation. After that Grizdale the town fell. Migas informed me that the fall of Grizdale had cost him 2.5 million because when a town falls it has a tendency to destroy the protections on signs (IE Storage and Money signs). Armed with this information I took immediate action to stop further damage to any of our members. I Banned Elle under "Account compromised" until I could talk to her about what she was doing. I had/have no intention of not allowing her to leave. I just want to make sure that no one is harmed because of it. She made it very clear that she did not feel comfortable being here anymore, and has decided to leave.
February 1st
I have been waiting for the time to write all this down, I was hoping that Elle would reconsider, that she would want to stay in the community that we have built. I also planned on not posting this at all, or not in this format. I never wanted to drag all this drama out in-front of everyone. But since enough rumors have flown about what the cause is, and who is involved. It has forced me to make this a public thing. Elle has stopped returning my messages, so that pretty much where everything stands. If anyone has questions, you can find me on Skype, ill be happy to clear things up.
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Thanks for clearing this up and letting us know what was going on... as a former member of Grizedale, I was wondering what had happened.
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thats a hard read thanks for clarifying that. i respected elle greatly (and still do) i would have never thought her to be the type to go ahead and do those kind of things.
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No judgement should be passed on her, This should not change how you feel about her. There may be some perturbations surrounding her departure from the server, but that does not tarnish all the time she spent here. She was/is still an excellent member of this community. We were lucky to have her here for as long as we did.
Remember the good times.
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No judgement should be passed on her, This should not change how you feel about her. There may be some perturbations surrounding her departure from the server, but that does not tarnish all the time she spent here. She was/is still an excellent member of this community. We were lucky to have her here for as long as we did.
Remember the good times.
You're so right. Will there be someone to replace her?
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No judgement should be passed on her, This should not change how you feel about her. There may be some perturbations surrounding her departure from the server, but that does not tarnish all the time she spent here. She was/is still an excellent member of this community. We were lucky to have her here for as long as we did.
Remember the good times.
You're so right. Will there be someone to replace her?
you can't replace unique people
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No judgement should be passed on her, This should not change how you feel about her. There may be some perturbations surrounding her departure from the server, but that does not tarnish all the time she spent here. She was/is still an excellent member of this community. We were lucky to have her here for as long as we did.
Remember the good times.
You're so right. Will there be someone to replace her?
you can't replace unique people
Lol thats not what I meant. Elle is very unique. She was senior admin, Will someone take that spot?
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many ppl can become awesome admin if that is what your talking about however you know what they says "great power comes with great responsibility" and searching for those kinds of ppl could be hard.
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many ppl can become awesome admin if that is what your talking about however you know what they says "great power comes with great responsibility" and searching for those kinds of ppl could be hard.
Very true, and Elle had all of that, which made her an awesome admin.
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Replacing her is not possible. Filling her spot is not really a concern right now.
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Elle is a beautiful human being/Squirrel. Replacing her isn't possible. Will someone step into her role, eventually sure. But not right now
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In my opinion, the last thing I care about is to find someone to fill her spot. I'm very upset to see her leave, mainly because we had almost 2 years of good friendship on the server. A person like Elle will nevet be replaceable.
And as Fedgar said, It's time to remember the good moments...
Elle was the one who gave silly Migas enough confidence to join the voice chat.
Elle was the only one who made me good company on a lonely 2014 new year.
Elle is one of the people with the best sense of humour that I met.
Elle did help me on some tight situations I had to deal with and, whenever I asked for her help, she was always available.
These, and many other things I have not mentioned, I will never forget. If she eventually reads this, I wish you good luck in your future and I hope you will have fun wherever you will settle in.
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I remember the time shayh got elle angry and told him "you getting on my nerves" *laughed on the inside*
that was the only time I got to meet elle I wish I knew her more :( and as migas states
If she eventually reads this, I wish you good luck in your future and I hope you will have fun wherever you will settle in.
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Im deeply going to miss Elle. It hurt quiet a bit when I found out she was leaving. I never really talked to Elle that much but when I did she always made me laugh, even when we were taking care of issues on the server she still made me laugh. Elle is a unique person that in like any situation she'll make you smile.
She didn't know this but one day I was having a bad day, not even bad it was more like terrible, I logged onto the server and then almost instantly Elle is making me crack up. I didn't thank her for that but if she does read this; thank you Elle, for all you have done. I hope that one day you will come back to the server, even if its just for 5 minutes. Ill miss you deeply
~so long partner; talk to you again soon
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To our dearest yet amazing friend,
I will miss you and our old times especially when we went piggyback riding through Grizedale on pigs. You have been an inspiration and I feel as if you have helped me come a long way to this community. On some days when I was depressed you were one of those people. You were a person I could talk to and be supportful at the best of times, I never got to thank you for listening but soon hopefully a time comes when I am soon able to tell you that. With the upcoming time I wish to see you come back as a person still helpful and supportful to us especially at the best of times. Good luck in the future Elle, no one can replace you.
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Elle taught me how to make melon trees :/
Ill miss her.
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I think we will all miss elle very much, i hope one day elle mighg change her mind to come back...
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Elle really you are leaving :'(
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How unfortunate... I will greatly miss Elle?s presence on the server, she had such a soothing personality and playful sense of humour. Wherever she may find herself, I wish her the best...
Thanks for clearing this up.
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thankfully this has answered the question that i was on my mind about Grizedale. it did come as a shock that Grizedale has fallen the dramatic fashion it did
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Thank You Fedgar, for painting me so horribly. I notice you didn't post what you asked me to prepare for you before you stopped responding to me. So I will post it.
Recently through pure chance it was found my account had been compromised, and had been for a fair amount of time by someone I love and trust. This information was not known until Sunday, what was known before, however, was that my account, and in connection, myself, had committed substantial abuse. It was not malicious, but it was game changing.
Staff did their very best to get to the bottom of the situation, however as they have never had to deal with a situation similar, it was a completely new area to them. This resulted in ill chosen tactics, which as I said, isn't their fault. Upon venting my frustration about the situation, as there was questions I could not answer, I learnt who was on my account and why.
Learning that my account had been compromised was devastating and I informed staff, as that tied up loose ends. Compromised accounts can be dangerous, especially as a high ranking staff member. It is unforgivable to me that this has happened, so therefore I have chosen to step down as Senior Admin and leave the server.
I wish SentinelCraft and all it's members the very best, and bid you all a happy farewell.
Regards, Ellemenopea.
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Thank You Fedgar, for painting me so horribly. I notice you didn't post what you asked me to prepare for you before you stopped responding to me. So I will post it.
Recently through pure chance it was found my account had been compromised, and had been for a fair amount of time by someone I love and trust. This information was not known until Sunday, what was known before, however, was that my account, and in connection, myself, had committed substantial abuse. It was not malicious, but it was game changing.
Staff did their very best to get to the bottom of the situation, however as they have never had to deal with a situation similar, it was a completely new area to them. This resulted in ill chosen tactics, which as I said, isn't their fault. Upon venting my frustration about the situation, as there was questions I could not answer, I learnt who was on my account and why.
Learning that my account had been compromised was devastating and I informed staff, as that tied up loose ends. Compromised accounts can be dangerous, especially as a high ranking staff member. It is unforgivable to me that this has happened, so therefore I have chosen to step down as Senior Admin and leave the server.
I wish SentinelCraft and all it's members the very best, and bid you all a happy farewell.
Regards, Ellemenopea.
We love you Elle, and I do hope you come back some day. We will all be waiting for you. I understand how hard it can be to handle things like this, as for I do it everyday. I respected you, and I still do. Thank you for making me laugh when I cry. Thank you picking me up when I am down. I loved it when I put a block on top of a chest and told you I couldn't open it. We were both laughing, but it made me cry happy tears when you laughed.
I loved it when you told me my new plots in "Amare" were just as bad as the old ones. Don't worry, I wasn't crying, I was laughing.
Im going to miss your sense of humor, and no one in the world can replace you. You were (and still are) a great member of the community. I loved it when you were "Stan" or "SquirrelLady". You will always forever be my squirrel, but I respect your decision to leave. I will miss you, please come back soon. I need you part of my MineCraft life, you are what makes it complete. Without you, Sentinel Craft will not be the same. I hope you come back, until then, I will be waiting.
Love,
Abby
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Thank You Fedgar, for painting me so horribly. I notice you didn't post what you asked me to prepare for you before you stopped responding to me. So I will post it.
Recently through pure chance it was found my account had been compromised, and had been for a fair amount of time by someone I love and trust. This information was not known until Sunday, what was known before, however, was that my account, and in connection, myself, had committed substantial abuse. It was not malicious, but it was game changing.
Staff did their very best to get to the bottom of the situation, however as they have never had to deal with a situation similar, it was a completely new area to them. This resulted in ill chosen tactics, which as I said, isn't their fault. Upon venting my frustration about the situation, as there was questions I could not answer, I learnt who was on my account and why.
Learning that my account had been compromised was devastating and I informed staff, as that tied up loose ends. Compromised accounts can be dangerous, especially as a high ranking staff member. It is unforgivable to me that this has happened, so therefore I have chosen to step down as Senior Admin and leave the server.
I wish SentinelCraft and all it's members the very best, and bid you all a happy farewell.
Regards, Ellemenopea.
:-[
Goodbye Elle. I'll miss you.
"Tout est noir, mon amour"
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first Kouen, then Elle? whats the world coming to :( i was in Elle's nation (didnt really know her lol) but still...
i hope Elle and Kouen both come to their senses soon and come back.
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Thank You Fedgar, for painting me so horribly. I notice you didn't post what you asked me to prepare for you before you stopped responding to me. So I will post it.
Recently through pure chance it was found my account had been compromised, and had been for a fair amount of time by someone I love and trust. This information was not known until Sunday, what was known before, however, was that my account, and in connection, myself, had committed substantial abuse. It was not malicious, but it was game changing.
Staff did their very best to get to the bottom of the situation, however as they have never had to deal with a situation similar, it was a completely new area to them. This resulted in ill chosen tactics, which as I said, isn't their fault. Upon venting my frustration about the situation, as there was questions I could not answer, I learnt who was on my account and why.
Learning that my account had been compromised was devastating and I informed staff, as that tied up loose ends. Compromised accounts can be dangerous, especially as a high ranking staff member. It is unforgivable to me that this has happened, so therefore I have chosen to step down as Senior Admin and leave the server.
I wish SentinelCraft and all it's members the very best, and bid you all a happy farewell.
Regards, Ellemenopea.
Everyone is saying such kind words about you, but I don't think I'm not the only one thinking this. You abused Elle, insane amounts of diamond blocks in your chest, how did you not notice that? Is that how Grizedale got all of it's money, 40 stacks of diamond blocks over a 3 month period? I'm not going to sit on here and act like everything is ok because it's not. Your first sentence disrespected someone who held you in such high regard that he had the heart to confront you, and do it professionally instead of demoting you on the spot. I'm glad you're gone. I won't pretend not to be. I loved playing Minecraft with you but it seems like you're just sorry you got caught, and are leaving because of it. You're fleeing the scene of the crime and if you were really innocent you would stay online, and prove it. Not run away with your tail between your legs. That's my opinion and I will stand by it. Good riddance.
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Thank You Fedgar, for painting me so horribly. I notice you didn't post what you asked me to prepare for you before you stopped responding to me. So I will post it.
Recently through pure chance it was found my account had been compromised, and had been for a fair amount of time by someone I love and trust. This information was not known until Sunday, what was known before, however, was that my account, and in connection, myself, had committed substantial abuse. It was not malicious, but it was game changing.
Staff did their very best to get to the bottom of the situation, however as they have never had to deal with a situation similar, it was a completely new area to them. This resulted in ill chosen tactics, which as I said, isn't their fault. Upon venting my frustration about the situation, as there was questions I could not answer, I learnt who was on my account and why.
Learning that my account had been compromised was devastating and I informed staff, as that tied up loose ends. Compromised accounts can be dangerous, especially as a high ranking staff member. It is unforgivable to me that this has happened, so therefore I have chosen to step down as Senior Admin and leave the server.
I wish SentinelCraft and all it's members the very best, and bid you all a happy farewell.
Regards, Ellemenopea.
As Sina said, you really are just walking away from your problems. You should take care of your account, and if you know you have such a high position, don't give sensitive information away. If you were hacked, I could see how you wouldn't know until recently. You gave your account info to someone you trusted.
As Mark Twain said, ?Everyone is a moon, and has a dark side which he never shows to anybody.?
I trust my friends, but I never give them account information, knowing if I end up in a high role somewhere, my account could be used for evil.
But I disagree with Sina in his last statement.
If you really want to face your problems, change your password on your account for logging in to the server and for logging into Minecraft, and come back and play. We will always be there, with open arms.
That said, if you don't feel like coming back, I hope you have a joyful life elsewhere. I bid you adieu.
Sincerely, Aura.
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Thank You Fedgar, for painting me so horribly. I notice you didn't post what you asked me to prepare for you before you stopped responding to me. So I will post it.
Recently through pure chance it was found my account had been compromised, and had been for a fair amount of time by someone I love and trust. This information was not known until Sunday, what was known before, however, was that my account, and in connection, myself, had committed substantial abuse. It was not malicious, but it was game changing.
Staff did their very best to get to the bottom of the situation, however as they have never had to deal with a situation similar, it was a completely new area to them. This resulted in ill chosen tactics, which as I said, isn't their fault. Upon venting my frustration about the situation, as there was questions I could not answer, I learnt who was on my account and why.
Learning that my account had been compromised was devastating and I informed staff, as that tied up loose ends. Compromised accounts can be dangerous, especially as a high ranking staff member. It is unforgivable to me that this has happened, so therefore I have chosen to step down as Senior Admin and leave the server.
I wish SentinelCraft and all it's members the very best, and bid you all a happy farewell.
Regards, Ellemenopea.
Everyone is saying such kind words about you, but I don't think I'm not the only one thinking this. You abused Elle, insane amounts of diamond blocks in your chest, how did you not notice that? Is that how Grizedale got all of it's money, 40 stacks of diamond blocks over a 3 month period? I'm not going to sit on here and act like everything is ok because it's not. Your first sentence disrespected someone who held you in such high regard that he had the heart to confront you, and do it professionally instead of demoting you on the spot. I'm glad you're gone. I won't pretend not to be. I loved playing Minecraft with you but it seems like you're just sorry you got caught, and are leaving because of it. You're fleeing the scene of the crime and if you were really innocent you would stay online, and prove it. Not run away with your tail between your legs. That's my opinion and I will stand by it. Good riddance.
while i don't necessarily agree with Sinfay_ and his harsh approach to things (to each there own) there is one thing i must agree with him on, whether your account was compromised or not surely someone notices large amounts of diamonds showing up out of nowhere?
either way good luck on your ventures elsewhere.
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I'll answer the above accusations, as the players commenting are extremely new and have no knowledge of myself or the situation.
Grizedale was founded nearly 2 years ago by myself, 2 brothers, a sister in law, my husband and a few friends When you play with 3 people regularly, sometimes 8, all with joint access to chests, you don't pay attention to what's you've got. I certainly didn't, and I don't care what you think about that. Nearly 2 million dollars in 2 years is hardly an impressive amount to acquire between 8 peoples joint efforts.
My account was compromised by my Husband. I did not give my info to him, he's just a very astute individual and knows me well. If feel the need to blather about that, go ahead.
To the know it all who commented about disrespecting Fed, and indeed the ill-equipped person waffling about running away and proving innocence. Neither of you have any idea what has been happening over the last 2 weeks. You do not know how it was handled. You've no clue as to the amicable conversations between myself and Fed. All you have is your assumptions based on snippets. You're not involved in this, so everything is not going to be told to you.
I chose to do the right thing. I gave up my position as Staff, and moved on. You can both choose to believe what you will. Your beliefs aren't important to me. What I will say, is to go take a good hard look at yourselves. If your account was compromised to such a degree, by your lifetime partner, would you be happy and completely comfortable to keep your presence hanging around the server? If you were given the opportunity to keep your staff rank after such a horrendous breach, would you? If the answer is yes, you have no shame, and no regard for server rules.
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I kept nearly silent during the whole situation. Mainly because I had no words that could be said... More so I was shocked to find out that my dear friend who i've known so long had something like this tied to her account. I admit it i thought the worse presented the evidence. So when we confronted. We never were given information other then denying. So we gave our dear friend the benefit of the doubt only to be slapped in the face the next day with them being destructive to the members of their town ... then further denying their actions to a secondary naive group who are quite emotional unbalanced.... Even still we wanted to keep her. We brought in a third party showed them our past conversations and then all our knowledge he then proceeded to converse with ell and she started to open up about what happen it wasn't too late for her there was plenty that could have been done to clean this up. She gave us a message. We wanted our friend back. We didn't let go. However we got more reports of her denying what happened i'm not naming names i don't care for more drama to ensue. We decided to bring every thing to light about what has happened.. Ell you're entitled to these accusations. You're the one who came up with 2 stories you have chosen to feed selectively. I do wish you the best of luck now. You're a great builder and designer might wanna keep your husband on his own account. You my friend are irreplaceable. Do not be a stranger I do wish to keep in touch even if you want to throw the community away.
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I'll answer the above accusations, as the players commenting are extremely new and have no knowledge of myself or the situation.
Grizedale was founded nearly 2 years ago by myself, 2 brothers, a sister in law, my husband and a few friends When you play with 3 people regularly, sometimes 8, all with joint access to chests, you don't pay attention to what's you've got. I certainly didn't, and I don't care what you think about that. Nearly 2 million dollars in 2 years is hardly an impressive amount to acquire between 8 peoples joint efforts.
My account was compromised by my Husband. I did not give my info to him, he's just a very astute individual and knows me well. If feel the need to blather about that, go ahead.
Elle won't you atleast come back maybe JUST as a member, you have friends here especially Fed from what I've seen...
I've been on the server for just over a month don't know a whole lot about people, so yea you could say what you want I just don't like seeing good people go.
To the know it all who commented about disrespecting Fed, and indeed the ill-equipped person waffling about running away and proving innocence. Neither of you have any idea what has been happening over the last 2 weeks. You do not know how it was handled. You've no clue as to the amicable conversations between myself and Fed. All you have is your assumptions based on snippets. You're not involved in this, so everything is not going to be told to you.
I chose to do the right thing. I gave up my position as Staff, and moved on. You can both choose to believe what you will. Your beliefs aren't important to me. What I will say, is to go take a good hard look at yourselves. If your account was compromised to such a degree, by your lifetime partner, would you be happy and completely comfortable to keep your presence hanging around the server? If you were given the opportunity to keep your staff rank after such a horrendous breach, would you? If the answer is yes, you have no shame, and no regard for server rules.
Elle, you have friends here,especcially fed and a few others, won't you atleast consider coming back even if you're JUST a member. I've only been on the server for just over a month don't know a whole lot about everyone yet, but from what i could tell you were a good person, and i don't like seeing good people go.
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I am really sorry to hear that your leaving, it must be hard to deal with whats going on In Game and In your home. At some point in the future would you reconsider if you will join again. I know if you join again it will be hard on you will everything that's gone on. But the choice is yours to make and i know you will make the right one for you.
It has also been an Honor to help in Grizedale as a helper. It gave me something to strive for along time, it also helped me with the interaction with the other players.
I hope you all the rest. Oplegoman.
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I'll answer the above accusations, as the players commenting are extremely new and have no knowledge of myself or the situation.
Grizedale was founded nearly 2 years ago by myself, 2 brothers, a sister in law, my husband and a few friends When you play with 3 people regularly, sometimes 8, all with joint access to chests, you don't pay attention to what's you've got. I certainly didn't, and I don't care what you think about that. Nearly 2 million dollars in 2 years is hardly an impressive amount to acquire between 8 peoples joint efforts.
My account was compromised by my Husband. I did not give my info to him, he's just a very astute individual and knows me well. If feel the need to blather about that, go ahead.
To the know it all who commented about disrespecting Fed, and indeed the ill-equipped person waffling about running away and proving innocence. Neither of you have any idea what has been happening over the last 2 weeks. You do not know how it was handled. You've no clue as to the amicable conversations between myself and Fed. All you have is your assumptions based on snippets. You're not involved in this, so everything is not going to be told to you.
I chose to do the right thing. I gave up my position as Staff, and moved on. You can both choose to believe what you will. Your beliefs aren't important to me. What I will say, is to go take a good hard look at yourselves. If your account was compromised to such a degree, by your lifetime partner, would you be happy and completely comfortable to keep your presence hanging around the server? If you were given the opportunity to keep your staff rank after such a horrendous breach, would you? If the answer is yes, you have no shame, and no regard for server rules.
You can just say my name, I'm a big boy Elle. Have fun with Kouen, Nili, and ProjectTermina.
Also I'm not a know-it-all, thank you for insulting me babe. Grow up, and say it directly to me. Not vaguely like a child.
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I don't understand. Yes Elle, we will miss you. But how did you husband get access to your account? and if you know, why didn't you inform other staff? I really do hope you come back, but right now, Im not sure to be sad or mad.
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Alright, Alright everyone. Lets take it down a few pegs.
Let me start with responding to Elle's original post:
I didnt paint you horribly, I posted what information we could show people via screenshots and limited logs. I also reiterated that this was a single blemish on an otherwise impeccable record. More over my post was simply to address the rumors that we hadnt drove you off and were not trying to take control of Grizdale. I hadn't posted what you had said because it didnt address the primary things I was trying to say. I figured it would be better received if you had posted the message yourself. Otherwise there would always be questions as to the authenticity anyways.
Everyone: While you are all entitled to your opinions, lets try to keep them respectful and to the point. Don't launch into attacks on people. This needn't get out of hand. Yes, transgressions were committed, by one side and the other. Remember, you have not seen every side of the situation, only what we can conceivably condense to a simple forum post.
Elle, what I think everyone is trying to say (for the most part) is that they dont agree with your choice to leave. Many people would have expected you to try and stay and make it up. I actually thought this myself. So I think it came as a surprise to everyone that you would decide to leave rather then explain to people what you did and what you are doing to fix it. Leaving just isnt an option for most people.
The conflicting stories most likely come from rumors started by peopel who didnt know the entire story. So I wouldnt put too much stock into anything you hear that you cant reconfirm here. (Since both parties involved are posting here)
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Guess its my turn, lmao. Elle, I've never liked you as much as I've heard about you. But I respected you. You leaving, that's on you. I pass no judgment. If you believe you have no place here, or at least if you feel as if your own internal conflicts are getting in the way, and decide to stay away from the server permanently. Good bye, good luck with your future endeavors.
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You will never like to ALL members, with me personally, i started joking with you and i learnt you don't have my sense of humor, haha, this is more injustice than SAD,
may i say that the facts are real, damage have been taken, some are mad, but the most are willing you to keep on TRY, if we decide to vote your permanence,
i can ensure most voters will have you back in the server, that's all i can say, hope your life be good full of blessings and happyness, don't laugh at me, hahaha,
i tried hard to write something, i will miss you though...
COME BACK YOU!!! and bring Kouen with you :P
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Now that Fed has responded again. I'll fully express my opinion.
I've been with the server since close to the beginning. Ive seen a lot of people come and go, and even I have been on a very long hiatus from not only the server, but the game itself as well. I imagine I've been gone for so long that my opinion doesn't matter anymore or isn't relevant. There have been few people on this server in my time here that have earned my respect. I can count them on one hand. Animal, Fedgar, Rich, Migas, and Elle. Elle was always one of the nicest people on the server (to me at least) and could handle a joke, all of my sarcastic remarks and sick jokes. I am honestly deeply saddened by her departure, and I would really hope she would reconsider.
There are things that happen in life that we deem unforgivable. It is a tremendous shame that Elle had her trust violated by someone so close to her. Whether she chooses to forgive or not is her choice. There is nothing in my eyes that cannot be forgiven, even in this sad circumstance.
Elle, if you are reading this, I hope you take this to heart. If you decide that stepping down is what is best for the server, and more importantly, best for you, then do it. I can guarantee that anyone who is on the server that has a heart will never think less of you. We have heard both sides of this story, and I think most of us would agree that what happened is not your fault. Should you decide to continue to stay a senior staff member, all of us will support you. To me, you don't have to do anything to make up for what happened. I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me.
If you need someone to talk to about this or anything, you can always hit me up on Skype: joeycalpdc.
No matter what you decide, we will all support you.
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I see now everything which happened is obvious.... Cards have been revealed...!
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Faisal... this post was dead for 2 months, why did you revive it?
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Haha