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ITz_Faisal

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Ban Apeal
« on: June 11, 2014, 05:57:44 PM »
- In-game name: ITz_Faisal

- Date and time of ban? (Include Timezone): Between 9:30-10:00 PM (GMT +4)

- Which Staff member banned you? (Blank if you do not know)

- Why were you banned? (What Appears on your ban message) Using a hacked client

- Were you previously jailed or muted? (If yes, say why)
 
- Why should you be unbanned? Well a misunderstanding happened i used a fully vanilla client well its an android app fully vanila what it does is disable everything in the pc version unless it just allows you to use the chat like you are on it tottaly doesnt have mods and there is no way you can cheat with this who banned me thought that iam hacking with this but i was just not moving at spawn ive been a good player and i didnt mean to do something wrong.

Additional Information: if you think any way that the client is forbidden to be used check it in the Android Market its called MC Chat and if you think it should not be used then just please unban me i ment no threat and i promise that i wont use it again.
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Re: Ban Apeal
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2014, 06:09:36 PM »
i had unbanned you right after was mainly a warning you could join again any time lol



 that "app" is a hacked client and will not be allowed as its not on the approved client list

Its not that i thought you are hacking that client rejects packets server sends to it resulting in faield checks and giving us flags it will never be allowed

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Re: Ban Apeal
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2014, 06:34:52 PM »
hello guys.
JADuf here . I talked to ITz_Faisal and i knew from him that he was using (mc chat) .
seriously, is that what he was banned for?!
ive been using that program in different servers and ive never been banned.
and (mc chat) is just for chating using the phone . its not hacking anything.
thnx.

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Re: Ban Apeal
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2014, 06:42:47 PM »
Hey thanks for the unban if you say its forbidden then its ok i wont use it all i care is having fun on this server.
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Re: Ban Apeal
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2014, 07:02:46 PM »
Jaduf you probably didn't listen. Rich said that it trips security checks. It's not his fault, he can do nothing. Other servers probably don't have the same settings and plugins as ours. Plus this is SentinelCraft, not any other server. What is allowed somewhere else might not be allowed here. Rich says it's forbidden, it's forbidden.
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Re: Ban Apeal
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2014, 12:40:31 PM »
ok Meteora :)
thnx god i didnt use it until now. xD
thnx for information and fast replies.

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A Ban Apeal
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2014, 12:16:31 PM »
- In-game name: ITz_Faisal

- Date and time of ban? (Include Timezone): 2:50 PM +4 GMT

- Which Staff member banned you? (Blank if you do not know) Ellemenopia        >:(

- Why were you banned? (What Appears on your ban message) Threatening an admin, being abusive, rude, childish and tp killing.

- Were you previously jailed or muted? (If yes, say why) yes she muted me today and that's sit.
 
- Why should you be unbanned? Because i love this server, i never had anything bad to it and i would'nt of done that any time , i feel great in here i joined a towny server once ago but never felt relaxed to it and i didn't find it good to play as much as i did here, i respect all the people here and most of them don't have bad feelings to me (as much as i know iam sorry if someone is having bad feelings to me tell me i will fix it).

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I cutted the part here because i think that iam not the person who wrote it iam sorry again. If you think you want it back i have a save for it.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2014, 08:35:09 AM by ITz_Faisal »
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Funny, you were telling me how I was the admin you were most comfortable with earlier. I guess you suck up to who you need to to get what you want done.

I've never called you a bastard, that's a plain out lie.

I always answer your questions, however whether you follow my advice is your decision. You've already stated in /msg that there's no rule saying you follow my suggestions.

You are perfectly entitled to kill anyone ingame who initiates PvP. You hit me multiple times, before and after I killed you. You even ran onto PvP Disabled land to get away from the third kill, after hitting me again.

I did indeed ban a player for posting an IP in /g. They got unbanned by myself and apologised to after I realised they were posting our ip in /g. Funny how you forgot that part, huh?

Threats are threats, whether I take them seriously or not. Whilst I don't take your threats seriously, it was still a threat. When you mention a altered version of events and say there's more of those events that you are going to tell people, that, is a threat. I will not be defamed with lies.

You are childish and entitled, I have told you such. You do not go around commanding Admins to do your bidding. That is why you got frozen, so you couldn't talk in /g or move around and harass me whilst I was helping OTHER PLAYERS.  I helped your friend, he refused the help. It is not up to you to then initiate conflict over this. You clearly have no idea how to run things, so let me give you a hint. If items are persistently going missing, you report it as a bug on the forums. That way, more people can see the issue, comment, swap similarities and the issue gets sorted.

Tp Killing is TP Killing. End of story. It doesn't matter who tpd to who, you still tp killed.

How dare you assume that a reason why I helped a player was because they are a girl. This highlights how incredibly sexist and entitled you are. The player in question reported you for tp killing. I helped them, because you tp killed. They were not making false allegations, and I had no idea of their gender. Grow up.

I've no idea what allegation you're making when you say I made a mistake with a friend. Please, tell us this friends name and I will tell you exactly why this mystery person was dealt with the way they were. If indeed, this person exists.




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If you don't understand why you're banned and complain about the person that banned you for no apparent reason, why are you appealing?

Your appeal will be under review, wait a maximum of 7 days for a response.

P.S. -- Creating a paragraph to kiss all admins' ass except Elle is not going to help on your appeal.



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as i say all time she always makes her self the right person and we are always the wrong ones.

dont you really understand i did not tp kill her!!!!!!! you didn't even ask her about details which made me sure that you accused me for tp killing for another reason..
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i know i should not post here unless i am an admin or banned but i would like to say that.

Server admins are the law on that server and only that server (like the government is to a Country), and the way they deal with things is up to them self's to discuss or the owner the way they should react to complaints, bugs, rule breaking and/or stupidity. And i do not think that they will allow a threatening, Rules breaking player to carry on playing the game with other people which might take the threats to heart, as they might be young, and this would cause to exit the server as they do not need to put up to threats from a person over the internet.

In the admins defense (ellemenopea), i have found that she has been helpful to me by helping me make a largish underground farm, allowing me to join her town and also supplying a town which has the things to allow me to do things what i can not do at my home in the wilderness and without this my survival time would have been harder. So i do not see how you can have a go at a admin while you have been threatening, being childish and breaking rules, it just does not work.

this is my view of this

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Just a few things I'd like to point out. I will number your lines to my responses.

1. ohh cmon lets get to tp killing i killed Pauizz for a personal reason

2. i asked to tp to her but she tped to me first of all

3. she had full knowledge that she was on a pvp allowed area

4. and i asked her to talk when i finished talking she was still here and i had my reason to kill her + i killed her after 2 mins atleast from being in the place should that be tp killing

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 (should an admin say the it was tp killing wile its not let me tell you why she assumed me as tp killing its because Pauizz is a girl and second of all because she helped her in something i don't want to say she acctually got in something that did not have anything to do with her.


6. and i killed i player i think his name was sandoo iam not sure about his name but he got in my land without my permission and Pauizz tped him in my land.

1. It doesn't matter if you have a grudge against someone, or  a problem with them, that's no excuse to break a rule. Just like in real life, if you were to hurt/kill someone for a "personal reason" you'd still have to face consequences. And Yes, I know this is just a game, but every action in life has a consequence. Keep that in mind.

2.  you asked her to tp to her..but she tped to you instead...um just going to point this out as well...it doesn't matter who does the tping. If you kill someone after they request to tp to you, or vice versa...it's a tp kill.
 The reason it's a tp kill is because you/or they REQUESTED to tp.  If she/or you had just shown up in the area, without welcome,  or being tped in, then yeah, it's perfectly fine to kill. But because you requested a tp of any sort with this person, it means you gave up your freedom to kill.

Furthermore, Rule number 10, "no unfair pvp" says on part b, "tp killing, e.g.,  tping someone to you,/vice versa, and killing them.  oh hey..yeah you did that. Once a tp has been requested by either party, and is accepted it forms an invisible contract of sorts under this rule. The contract more or less just being that you will not lure, or be lured by another player and be killed.If you can't understand this, then do not tp, or allow someone to tp to you. Also, this rule was put in place, likely, to build trust between players. I've played on servers where this is not a rule, and I would NEVER tp to someone unless I had backup, because over half the time it was an ambush.  That is not the sort of community that sentinel craft is, or ever will be.

3. Most of the time when I tp, if it's town/wilderness, it actually doesn't say. Or if it does, I haven't noticed. Regardless, it doesn't matter if she knew or not, you still had no right to break the rules. In all honesty it sounds more or less like you set her up. You purposefully tped her in on pvp enabled grounds, most likely to save you're own bum later on if you're actions were called on.

4. It sounds like what you're saying is "I was talking, and once I finished I waited/asked for her to speak, I then waited until two minutes passed, and I proceeded to kill her because she was still there" From what I can understand of this, and please do correct me If I'm wrong, is that you did infact lure her and then trick her into talking. And once she was talking you decided to kill  her, because you KNEW that when someone is typing, it's unlikely they will be able to defend against an attack as easily.  I wouldn't be surprised if she had had no armor on when you attacked her.

Also, it doesn't matter how much time has passed since the tp request, as I previously stated, rule 10 forms an invisible contract of sorts. It does not give a time limit, so there is not one. So this still is a tp kill.  Perhaps if you had said something like "oh hey, if you haven't left this area in the next 2 minutes I'm going to kill you, pauizz" in the general chat, then MAYBE it would have been okay, because you gave her fair warning. Though, I suspect that that would depend on the staff online. I personally would still consider it a tp kill though.

5. From what I can understand, you're saying elle only considered it a tp kill because pauizz is a girl, and was being given special treatment.  That is a downright sexist lie. The staff may be friendlier with certain players, but everyone is punished the same. Also, they don't help people based on gender. When I first joined, people thought I was male, and even when they found out i was female, they were still kind to me. Staff does not discriminate gender. I have never once seen them do so, and I've been on here a bit longer than you have. 

Also, how were they supposed to know what gender pauizz was? It's not like they keep a list of what gender someone is. That would be silly. It sounds more or less like you're trying to use player favoritism/gender bias to throw the attention back on the admin whom banned you. This is incredibly petty, and you should know better. Just accept that you did wrong, and stop trying to wiggle your way out of the mess you've made. Trying to redirect the attention away from what you've done wrong will not solve the problem, nor will it aid you in any way.

6. As far as I am aware, whomever you allow on your land, and anyone they bring with them, you are not allowed to kill. If the person had wandered in from elsewhere, then it should have been okay to kill them. However, it sounds like what you're saying is that pauizz, someone whom you've allowed on your lands before, tped someone to her. Under rule 10, that person should still be alright. Because they are a guest of your guest. So...that's another tp kill.

I apologize for the lengthiness of my post, and if my post is unwanted by the staff. I just felt it should be explained why it was considered a tp kill.


 


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I'm still waiting upon your answer to this mystery friend.

I'd also like your clarification

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because Pauizz is a girl and second of all because she helped her in something i don't want to say she acctually got in something that did not have anything to do with her.

What does that mean? What are you trying to imply? Could you not come up with a lie fast enough?

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It's my mistake i'm sorry i apologize to everyone and elle i swear i will not repeat it  :'( just let me play on this server again.
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