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I need to state my case please
« on: October 22, 2014, 08:44:35 AM »
- In-game name:
--Brookeeybabe--- Date and time of ban? (Include Timezone):
20/10/14 around 9:30Pm EST
- Which Staff member banned you? (Blank if you do not know)
I think their name was like elle (something like that
- Why were you banned? (What Appears on your ban message)
The message I get when I try to log on is:     Greif by claiming over another persons town, refusing to co operate, whiny
- Were you previously jailed or muted? (If yes, say why)
 I was jailed because the admin said I sounded whiny
- Why should you be unbanned?
when I made my new town and claimed my area it said wilderness-(PVP) which means no one has yet claimed this land so I claimed it, the admin was unfair and not willing to listen to my side she kept saying move. move. and was cutting me off saying I am not listening to her. I think she should be talked to on how to speak to someone when they have done something you think isn't right
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:) Thankyou :)
« Last Edit: October 22, 2014, 11:14:51 AM by Migas »

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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2014, 08:46:23 AM »
the person who banned me was Ellemenopea

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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2014, 09:03:42 AM »
First off this is not the proper format for a ban appeal, please look at the ban appeal template in ban appeals.

Second Elle was chosen to be an admin for a reason and she respects and she would have had a reason to ban you

Third The rules are too respect staff and you should listen to her as the land could be near another town and that's why she may be telling you to move.

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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2014, 11:15:18 AM »
Your appeal will be under review, wait a maximum of 7 days for response.
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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2014, 11:34:43 AM »
--Brookeeybabe--20/10/14 around 9:30Pm EST
I think their name was like elle (something like that
The message I get when I try to log on is:     Greif by claiming over another persons town, refusing to co operate, whiny
I was jailed because the admin said I sounded whiny
I think I should be unbanned because:
when I made my new town and claimed my area it said wilderness-(PVP) which means no one has yet claimed this land so I claimed it, the admin was unfair and not willing to listen to my side she kept saying move. move. and was cutting me off saying I am not listening to her. I think she should be talked to on how to speak to someone when they have done something you think isn't right
:) Thankyou :)

Well she was right. You didn't listen to her, in fact I'm the one who brought it to her attention because it seemed weird that someone was building there, and I don't recall king's town's name being "overkill". You talk here as though it was a piece of wild land and that's some hard B-S right there. King_Leviathan had already built some roads, a farm, a tower thing, and the entrance to a castle where you decided to claim. Not only are you trying to persuade people that you were unjustly banned, but you're also having the gall to say "if it's a build in the wild, it's okay for me to claim over it and make changes to it" ..that's not how this server works.

Before claiming someone else's stuff, you have to notify and give them 30 days to move it *assuming they put it down after you*..so actually..you were in the wrong here too. King was there before you, and he got banned, meaning his town probably fell, and you will NEVER be able to claim that area because you can NEVER talk to him in-game about it, not to mention he has more right to that land than you do. He also has right to his builds, which you claimed over..and altered...so griefed.

Also, your snide remark about how elle "should be talked to" proves that you have no concept of what happened. Elle is a valued member of staff, one whom knows the rules and has been around long enough to be able to accurately assess a situation and make a good judgement on it.  She tried several times to explain to you what you were doing wrong, and you basically ignored her, and told her she didn't know what she was talking about.  Elle never unfairly bans people, I've been around long enough to see that she's always fair, even when they don't deserve it.

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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2014, 12:20:15 PM »
Sorry if anyone thought my information wasn't correct or "not what happened" but,.
I was jailed then banned when I never got to say my side Elle kept budding in not letting me fully explain

I think I should get another chance to come back

Why should that beautiful land stay there no one using it it was wilderness I'm not lieing  my chat said it was

I love this server how as soon as I needed help I could get it

Another reason I clamed over that land is because that bid tower thing was my plot then when the town wasn't there I was raided lost 15 diamonds and a spawner I had to claim cos there was too much stuff to put in my inv and or an ender chest
And kouenkami I didn't make alterations I built on I never ever broke a block that was there before except for farming. So please don't make things up and attack at me with words when no offence but your not in this this is between me admins staff king and other people, in the core of the server ty


If Elle would have let me say thi smash be this whole thing wouldn't be happening
THanks
« Last Edit: October 22, 2014, 12:22:52 PM by Brookeeybabe »

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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2014, 12:34:46 PM »
- In-game name:
--Brookeeybabe--- Date and time of ban? (Include Timezone):
20/10/14 around 9:30Pm EST
- Which Staff member banned you? (Blank if you do not know)
I think their name was like elle (something like that
- Why were you banned? (What Appears on your ban message)
The message I get when I try to log on is:     Greif by claiming over another persons town, refusing to co operate, whiny
- Were you previously jailed or muted? (If yes, say why)
 I was jailed because the admin said I sounded whiny
- Why should you be unbanned?
when I made my new town and claimed my area it said wilderness-(PVP) which means no one has yet claimed this land so I claimed it, the admin was unfair and not willing to listen to my side she kept saying move. move. and was cutting me off saying I am not listening to her. I think she should be talked to on how to speak to someone when they have done something you think isn't right
Additional Information:
:) Thankyou :)

And to think i loaned you $7000 towards your town and you threw it all away. regardless of the outcome of this appeal Overlord and its accompanying towns would like to distance themselves from "Overpower" as we do not condone this behavior.

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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2014, 12:37:47 PM »
--Brookeeybabe--20/10/14 around 9:30Pm EST
I think their name was like elle (something like that
The message I get when I try to log on is:     Greif by claiming over another persons town, refusing to co operate, whiny
I was jailed because the admin said I sounded whiny
I think I should be unbanned because:
when I made my new town and claimed my area it said wilderness-(PVP) which means no one has yet claimed this land so I claimed it, the admin was unfair and not willing to listen to my side she kept saying move. move. and was cutting me off saying I am not listening to her. I think she should be talked to on how to speak to someone when they have done something you think isn't right
:) Thankyou :)

Well she was right. You didn't listen to her, in fact I'm the one who brought it to her attention because it seemed weird that someone was building there, and I don't recall king's town's name being "overkill". You talk here as though it was a piece of wild land and that's some hard B-S right there. King_Leviathan had already built some roads, a farm, a tower thing, and the entrance to a castle where you decided to claim. Not only are you trying to persuade people that you were unjustly banned, but you're also having the gall to say "if it's a build in the wild, it's okay for me to claim over it and make changes to it" ..that's not how this server works.

Before claiming someone else's stuff, you have to notify and give them 30 days to move it *assuming they put it down after you*..so actually..you were in the wrong here too. King was there before you, and he got banned, meaning his town probably fell, and you will NEVER be able to claim that area because you can NEVER talk to him in-game about it, not to mention he has more right to that land than you do. He also has right to his builds, which you claimed over..and altered...so griefed.

Also, your snide remark about how elle "should be talked to" proves that you have no concept of what happened. Elle is a valued member of staff, one whom knows the rules and has been around long enough to be able to accurately assess a situation and make a good judgement on it.  She tried several times to explain to you what you were doing wrong, and you basically ignored her, and told her she didn't know what she was talking about.  Elle never unfairly bans people, I've been around long enough to see that she's always fair, even when they don't deserve it.


No biggy, but slight correction- brookey's town was called "Overpower" not "Overkill"

as it currently stands-

-OverWatch~ Mayor: Roadkill919
-OverKill~ Mayor: Wazzar
-OverPower~ Mayor: Brookeeybabe

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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2014, 03:33:38 PM »
I find it interesting that you insist that I wasn't listening to you. When actually, you have a long history here of not listening to players. Furthermore, I listened to you, intently. It was equal to torture. You didn't put forward a single compelling argument. Your entire dialog was the similar  to 'this land is wild. If it was owned by someone, then I wouldn't be able to claim'. Over and over. This demonstrates a serious lack in understanding of other peoples property. If I built a house, in the wilds, that is my house. If someone makes a town over it, not only are they being jerks, because theres the whole of the server to choose from, but they are griefing, via obstruction.

I told you that claiming over other peoples builds is grief, and you refused to acknowledge this. It is grief, because the items are theirs, and they will not be able to claim it whenever they like, they will not be able to get into chests or open doors, this is how towny works. You do not need to make alterations to builds for this to be considered grief. Just because you have a house there, does not give you the right to the rest of town.

I also told you multiple times that the previous town ran out of funds, and fell. That is why it was wilds. I provided accurate answers to all your qualms, yet you still remained entitled and childish over the situation, opting in the end to log off, rather then solve the issue.

Hint: You say you had to claim over land because you had too much stuff in your inventory... This is what chests are for. 8 wood planks in a work bench, placed around the outside, like a hollow square.

« Last Edit: October 22, 2014, 03:50:12 PM by Ellemenopea »

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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2014, 08:11:29 PM »
I will take this from here.

A few things are going to happen before we even begin to look at your ban appeal.

First. You are going to apologize to Elle for having the audacity to attempt to call her out. That is not your place. If she needs spoken to, we (the staff) will decide. Not you.

Second, I reviewed the logs and have spoke with Elle about it. She did let you speak, she also understood your side of things. Its not just a miscommunication. You were flat wrong and would not listen to her explanations as she gave them to you. You were not listening to her as she tried to explain that we have very specific rules about this conduct and you were in violation.

Third you are going to understand that ANYTHING you didnt build is simply not yours. You may want to fall back on the "It wasnt claimed" but that is not valid here. Case in point, My entire island is not claimed by Towny. Yet no one is allowed to come and claim over it. All player builds, large or small, old or new are protected by our rules from grief.

 When you accept and comply with these three things, then I will consider your appeal.
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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2014, 04:39:26 AM »
I am great fully sorry Elle for the way I was speaking but in the heat of the moment it's kinda hard to think of what happned 6 hours before

Roadkill I think you are rushing to judgement here yes I got banned yes I wasn't acting right but..
Shouldn't eveyone get a second chance to prove themselves...

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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2014, 02:26:03 PM »
You still haven't acquiesced to the fact that all property is protected whether it be in the "Wilderness" Or claimed.

If you didnt build it, Dont Touch It. <--- A very simple rule to live by.

Im waiting for you to agree to all three conditions. When you do we can begin reviewing your appeal. 
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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2014, 06:28:15 AM »
I never broke any blocks that were there previously only placed new ones there was only one block that was claimed I never claimed that. I swear on my life the Barra I claimed was not claimed I never claimed over valetorian

I have thought about it and I will pack my things up and go that is if I get allowed back in

Thankyou

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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2014, 06:52:07 PM »
Placing Blocks on someone else's structure is just as greifing as destroying blocks.

Second you claimed a town over the top of someone else's structure. A clear breach in protocol.
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Re: I need to state my case please
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2014, 01:05:00 AM »
I said I'm greatly sorry and if I get let back in I would u claim my land and go somewhere else